Wake Forest vs. Miami Game Preview

I thought the IOWA game was best… the perseverance and swagger of the IOWA game was better I thought, but the best ACC game by far. I am on the improvement being evident side of this game. They game-planned well for the Miami bigs, and the last play was nice… especially with no TO. But before we get crazy, it was just one game. If they can get these results the rest of the way I may be sold on them really getting better. I am proud and appreciate watching a game that kept me engaged. A loss is a loss, but close loses can be a comfort… Let’s go fellas! Make the best of what we have and build for next year!

I think you’re overstating the age thing a little bit. I spend literally a sentence surmising that it might have something to do with RA’s itchy trigger finger to attack people commenting and poorly police the forum, and you spend 3 paragraphs on it. To restate, all I surmised that maybe age had something to do with RA’s overall poor behavior.

It’s nice to hear that you, MB, WakeJake, and RA disagree sometimes, but that doesn’t really matter to the rest of us. The fact that you guys can express dissent respectfully amongst yourselves, a bunch of friends from and still in college, isn’t surprising. The problem we’re talking about involves how this forum operates, and how your internal relationships that tolerate disagreeing opinions doesn’t at all reflect how conduct is both pursued and policed here.

The point is that those of us who don’t see many positives about the coach, are neither being treated with equal respect as we treat those who see positives in the coach, nor are we protected by admins. like RA.

The point is, it’s not as simple as saying “Ah, both sides do it 50/50, we just need to remind everyone to respect each other and that’ll make both culpable sides normalize their behavior towards each other.” I (and say this next word with emphasis) respectfully request you to show where one of us, from our leaders to our little people – DaDeacs, me, Jeremy Bishop, GTS, or JFizzle86 – has said anything to those who dissent from our position on coach bzdelik that is remotely close to what people like RA and JoshuaR have been saying to us.

For example, RA jumped on GTS and accused him of " spewing lies ",

You are entitled to your opinion, I would just prefer that you not spew it as fact when it is almost certainly not the case.

Then JoshuaR accused GTS of “wanting players who are harming the program on the team,” and “wanting players to just walk over coach bzdelik.”

So you are a proponent of keeping players who are harming the program on the team? You want players to just walk over Bzdelik and any policies he implemented?

Then, when all that was said was that if it’s never revealed why Tabb was dismissed, that the dismissal of a 4-star recruit coupled with our really, really bad season and the coach’s resume might create more doubt in a 4 or 5-star recruit’s mind, RA accused GTS again, saying he was trying to " spin ," everything that Coach Bzdelik does

I just don’t think that trying to spin everything that Coach Bzdelik does or says is a very good way to support the University that we care about in a public forum. That’s all.

Chas McFarland & L.D. Williams were recruited as role players, not cornerstones.

In contrast, we are commemorating a ‘new era’ by recruiting 2 & 3-star players to serve as its foundation. Moreover, since we’ve been so awful, character is literally the only crutch left to lean on, and it rings rather hollow/sounds like a tired excuse since it isn’t like we had a bunch of Ron Artests previously, we had 4 and 5-star recruits who had excellent character. Looking at Bzdelik’s weak recruiting at Colorado, and his weak recruiting here, now all we have are worse players than we did in the past, with prospectively comparable good character. This is not a good thing
MHayes: Right now it’s just us going back and forth. We’re not seeing eye to eye, and maybe people will chime in tomorrow. As for now, I’m going to bed hoping the Deacs will pull one out tomorrow night.
DC Cardinal: Instead of the continuous complaining, you should be the coach yourself. You obviously know more than anyone else.
RAJohnston: I assume this is directed at Grand Tanyon and not MHayes?

Not only was RA not trying to ensure that those that with differing opinions on the season and the coach treated each other with equal respect, he wanted to make sure that DC Cardinal’s insult went GTS’s way.

The main reason why there’s such disproportionate representation of people like SamuraiFoochs, JoshuaR, WillisB, and MHayes, who like the coach, and there’s such disproportionately meager participation by people who dissent from that line, like me, DaDeac, GTS, Jeremy Bishop, & JFizzle86, on this blog, is because the rule of people treating each other with equal respect is totally superficial due to prejudiced policing that doesn’t protect people like DaDeac, GTS, Jeremy Bishop, me, or JFizzle86.

People who disagree from the pro-bzdelik line only sporadically participate because when we do, we’ve been told that we “want the coach to lose,” that we “want players who will/to walk all over the coach,” and when our leader gts provides more objective data for us to talk about (certainly more than any of the other side gathers) in assessing the season, we’re pretty much either accused of things without qualification and marginalized since admins. like RA not only won’t protect us from ad homs, but will go so far as to make sure that we make sure that we know we’re on the receiving end of them.

The level of respect simply isn’t equal, and it shows in how sparse the participation level is of people who disagree with the opinions of people like RA and JoshuaR, who are allowed to walk all over us by freely making pretty damning accusations. When you say things like “you’re spewing lies,” “whatever you’re saying’s spin,” “you want players who are bad for the program,” and “you want players who will walk all over the WF coach,” they need to be backed up. RA and JoshuaR haven’t justified any of these comments with anything. It’s simply maltreatment and nothing’s done about it, and that’s why people like us hardly participate here. But this place isn’t supposed to be a nest for people who have a positive view of jeff bzdelik to be able to trash people who want to participate but don’t share that view. When you make accusations like those above, they require some kind of justification. And there isn’t any! They’re just insults!

Again, I emphatically ask you not to delete this comment and provide us with some feedback. It’s not as simple as “both sides are just 50/50 getting out of hand and it’s time to corral the cats back into good order.” No. I respectfully challenge you to show me where any of us who are not as high on coach bzdelik like GTS, DaDeac, JFizzle86, Jeremy Bishop, or I have shown any disrespect towards others like JoshuaR and RAJohnston have.

I swear you if any of us had accused RA or JoshR of “spewing lies,” or of wanting players that would walk all over the coach, or of wanting player that would harm the program, we would be receiving warnings or getting banned. It’s ridiculous.

I emphatically ask you not to hit delete, and to give us some feedback. Show us where any of us have accused anyone high on coach bzdelik of things on par with what RA and JoshuaR have accused us of so freely? If you can’t, I advise you to do *some*thing about it. I know he’s “your writer” and a college buddy but you have to draw the line somewhere, we get treated like dirt and haven’t said anything like what we’re constantly being accused of by people like RA & JoshuaR.