Wake Forest Freshmen vs. Similar NCAA Freshmen (Part III...Carson Desrosiers)

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In this article we will look at the Wake Forest freshmen, and see how they compare to the freshmen that were ranked around them in the Rivals.com final rankings.

My hypothesis is that they are performing at or above average to their peers (at their respective position). We will not look at Melvin Tabb, as he did not play enough. I will put Tony Chennault up if y'all want to see it, but of course he will not compare due to his lack of playing time because of his foot injury. 

So we are predominantly looking at Carson DesrosiersJT Terrell, and Travis McKie to see how they stack up against their classmates. Today we look at Carson Desrosiers.

Part I- JT Terrell

Part II- Travis McKie

Click through for a look at how Carson stacks up against his counterparts from the 2010 recruiting class.

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Player Team MIN PTS REB AST TO A/T STL BLK PF FG% FT% 3P% PPS

 

Ardreian Payne Michigan St. 8.7 2.5 2.2 0.2 0.8 0.2 0.4 0.7 1.2 0.51 0.464 0 1.29

 

Josh Smith UCLA 20.6 10.7 6.4 0.6 1.4 0.44 0.8 0.9 3 0.568 0.605 0 1.58

 

Patric Young Florida 17.8 3.3 3.3 0.3 0.8 0.42 0.6 0.8 1.7 0.559 0.696 0 1.39

 

Meyers Leonard Illinois 9 2.3 1.5 0.1 0.8 0.15 0.2 0.3 1.6 0.471 0.643 0 1.12

 

Tarik Black Memphis 22.7 9 5.2 0.4 1.5 0.25 0.7 1.8 3.1 0.532 0.575 0 1.35

 

C.J. Aiken St. Joes. 27.6 7.4 4.5 0.6 1.5 0.43 0.4 4 1.9 0.447 0.623 0.279 1.22

 

Demarco Cox Mississippi 9.1 1.8 1.9 0.1 0.5 0.15 0.2 0.3 1.3 0.516 0.55 0 1.39

 

Carson Desrosiers WFU 18.8 4.3 3.5 0.7 0.8 0.86 0.2 1.7 1.8 0.4 0.71 0.357 1.07

 

Moses Abraham Georgetown 4.3 2.5 0.3 0.3 0.5 0.5 0.5 0.5 0.5 0.667 0.75 0 3.33

 

Alex Kirk New Mexico 17.4 5.8 4.2 0.4 0.8 0.45 0.3 0.8 2.4 0.504 0.622 0.323 1.29

 

Maurice Walker Minnesota 9.6 3.7 2.8 0.8 0.9 0.91 0.6 0.4 1.1 0.514 0.4 0.4 1.19

 

 

Average Null 15.05 4.85 3.25 0.41 0.94 0.43 0.45 1.11 1.78 0.52 0.60 0.12 1.47

 

 

%Min ORtg %Poss %Shots eFG% TS% OR% DR% ARate TORate Blk% Stl% FC/40 FD/40 FTRate

 

Ardreian Payne Michigan St. 21.1 84 19.4 14.6 50 49.2 14.1 16.5 3.8 29.7 9.5 2.6 5.2 4 59.5

 

Josh Smith UCLA 48.6 112.7 26.3 24.4 57.5 59 20.5 15.1 7.6 15.9 4 2.3 6.1 6.8 72.5

 

Patric Young Florida 43.3 105.1 10.9 9.7 55.9 58.6 6.9 14.9 3.2 24.4 5.1 2.1 3.8 2.2 39

 

Meyers Leonard Illinois 22 79.6 17.2 16.3 47.1 49.4 4.6 12.4 2.5 29.4 3.9 1.3 7.4 2.8 27.5

 

Tarik Black Memphis 55.1 104.5 21.3 20.4 54.5 55.5 15.2 10.4 3.6 18.8 8.2 1.7 5.6 4.8 50.3

 

C.J. Aiken St. Joes. 68.9 95.9 16.6 15.9 50.3 52.9 5.1 13.7 5.1 19.3 15.1 0.8 2.7 3.3 41.5

 

Demarco Cox Mississippi 21.2 100.6 13.3 10 51.6 53.1 11.8 11.7 1.6 22.7 3.5 1.1 5.1 3.2 64.5

 

Carson Desrosiers WFU 46 93.5 14.6 15.9 43.4 47.5 5.8 14.2 8 17.4 8.2 0.6 3.7 2.6 31.6

 

Moses Abraham Georgetown 2.1 129 24.8 13.2 N/A N/A 0 6.6 10.4 28.5 11.7 7.1 N/A N/A N/A

 

Alex Kirk New Mexico 43.8 105.3 17 19.1 54.8 56.2 7.3 20.9 4.5 17.2 5.3 1.2 5.6 3.3 32.2

 

Maurice Walker Minnesota 11.5 100.6 24.5 24 54.1 52.7 18.1 14.8 19.2 23.3 5 3.6 4.5 3.4 27

 

 

Average Null 34.9 101.0 18.7 16.7 51.9 53.4 9.9 13.7 6.3 22.4 7.2 2.2 5.0 3.6 44.6

  • I figured that out of Travis, JT, and Carson, Carson would be the most likely to be at the average or right below it. It is always hard to tell with young big men how they are going to develop. As a whole, the 2010 class yielded a lot of efficient freshmen.
  • Carson is a little above the average playing time for big men, and falls a little short on the offensive end (ppg and offensive efficiency). As we already know, Carson is not the focal point of our offense, and is below the average of in both possessions used, and shots taken while in.
  • Carson's biggest shortcoming is his point per shot (pps). He comes in at 1.07 pps, while the average is 1.47 (inflated due to Moses Abraham's 3.33 pps, but still the worst on the chart).
  • CD protects the ball well, and also has a good assist rate for a big man, which is evident on the court. 
  • He is also the best free throw shooter of the bunch, which should pay off when he gets more muscle, a higher amount of % when on the court, and rebounds better.
  • Speaking of the rebounding, he is well below the OR% (5 compared to the average of 9), but slightly above average on the defensive end. This indicates Jeff Bzdelik's "get back on defense" mindset, which does not allow for a lot of offensive rebounds. To back this up, the highest OR% on the team is Travis McKie, at a meek 9.0%.
My conclusion: Carson Desrosiers is playing slightly worse than the recruits around him. This was a little surprising to me, but not because of what I have seen on the court. Carson is doing about what I expected of him coming out of high school. He is going to develop into a great player inside for us, and will hopefully be All-ACC by his junior year (if he can play the 4 rather than the 5 it would help tremendously, but with our current team mindset that probably will not happen). I am very surprised at how the other big men are playing. They are extremely efficient, and have been some of the better assets ("go to guys"/"major contributors" according to KenPom) o ntheir team.

This conclusion is slightly detrimental to my hypothesis: Wake Forest recruits are playing at or above average compare to their peers. This is based on the stats above that I have listed. 

If you feel that I have left something out, or not done a fair comparison then let me know what I can do differently in the comment section.

On Monday I will wrap this up and give my final conclusions on how our freshmen (3/5 of them anyway) have done relative to the players around them in their class. Hopefully this will give some context to the expectations that we should have for them as opposed to what some people believe they should be doing.
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