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Painful Realization

My name is Bart Johnston and I have an addiction. I'm addicted to Wake Forest sports. If you're on this site, reading this article you are probably in some capacity addicted to Wake Forest as well. I call it an addiction because it's one of those things that you would almost have to be crazy to do. I love being a part of the Wake Forest community and that is why the following article pains me as I type it out and put it out there for you guys to see and debate.

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I love the ACC tournament. It's my Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's bundled up into one fabulous four day extravaganza. It's the best feeling in the world walking through the entrance gates on Thursday when every team is still in the tournament and every team can still make a run at the NCAA's. Walking in for today's first session I got goosebumps like always despite going in for what I considered to be one of the more lackluster first games. Wake obviously played in the second game so I was fired up about that, but wasn't particularly looking forward to the BC-UVA game. Throughout the UVA game I got increasingly nervous about our upcoming contest, but still was not too worried because we were playing Miami, and were the better team. As UVA pulled out a good win over BC, I was excited to start our 2010 ACC Tourney run.

Well of course as you well know by now Wake didn't just lose to Miami, Wake was humiliated by Miami. I was totally crushed. I'll be honest, to me this was worse than the Cleveland State game last year because following the Maryland beat down in the tourney I didn't have great expectations. I really thought that Wake had turned a corner against Clemson, would come out inspired and get a victory, starting a potential run at the title. 

Instead Wake pulled another epic flop on one of college basketball's grandest stages, losing by 20+ points to a team that went 4-12 in conference and didn't win a road game in the ACC all year. This was utterly humiliating. Virginia and N.C. State won today, two teams who combined for 10 wins in conference play. Humiliating is all I can think of.

The loss in and of itself was bad enough, but the way we did it hurt more than anything. Wake led 2-0 and was then never in the game. Trailing by 10 for nearly the entire first half, the Deacs never got within sniffing distance after Miami opened up the second half with an 8-0 run. For the first time in a while, I was embarrassed for Wake Forest, and somewhat embarrassed to be a Wake fan. This was a fairly foreign feeling as I'm very proud of Wake, but today I was ashamed of what Wake put out on the court.

I do not typically do this and I'm not one to throw players or coaches under the bus. I am not a huge fan of Coach Lobo but I wasn't the first to throw him on the chopping block and still from time to time think that Lobo can be salvaged as a member of the coaching staff. I say this with a heavy heart because of what he means as part of the Prosser era, but it is time for Dino Gaudio to be fired and replaced as the Wake Forest basketball coach.

There are so many problems that Wake has it is nearly impossible to pinpoint one or two instances where he could improve and remain as coach. His teams cannot run a half court offense against a zone defense. This is such a huge flaw in and of itself that a coach could be fired solely for this, but to make matters worse there is not even an attempt to break it. We're content to pass around the perimeter without finding seams in the zone until the shot clock runs down, forcing Ish to try to drive down the lane. Penetrating the lane with the point guard against a zone is hardly ever going to work and is certainly not a viable option for an entire game.

To make matters even worse, it's not like Wake struggles against atypical zones like FSU threw at us (1-2-2, hybrid matchups, etc.). Wake cannot even break a standard 2-3 that half the country runs. Wake does not set up a guy at the top of the key and pass to him, Wake doesn't flash the middle or get the ball on the baseline, and they don't have players post up inside on the blocks to try to get the zone to collapse before kicking out.

I could go on and on about deficiencies that I see in the offense and defense, but I think most have already been fleshed out by our readers either on the boards or in conversations with friends following the game. I do not feel great about this nor do I wish anything other than the best to coach Gaudio, but a winless post-season record is inexcusable especially when none of the games have even been close.

Wake needs a coach that can win games in the tourney and not just take us there. Dino has one more chance to prove himself to the Wake fan base next weekend and I desperately hope that Gaudio has a trick or two left up his sleeve. Dino is a great man and is a good coach, but I feel like he is in over his head at Wake Forest and it is time for the two to part ways.

Feel free to discuss this topic here or send me an email if you want to have a private talk. I'm not trying to flame Dino, I'm just offering an honest opinion from a life-long Wake fan who is as tired as losing in the post-season as anyone else.

As always, Go Deacs!

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I don’t agree, but I obviously understand the frustration.

Bottom line is that we have a lot of odd pieces, many of which don’t fit together. Whether or not that will that change with the new blood coming in next year will be interesting to see. I think we will get a shot at seeing this staff with those (better shooting) players though, unless Dino himself ends it. It will definitely be refreshing to start over with some clear heads.

Then again, I always think basketball coaches get too much credit/heat for performance on the floor. Players have to make plays on both ends of the floor. The ones we currently have are not making these plays at anywhere close to a reasonable clip in March. It is definitely in their heads now.

Will this team put up a fight next week? I have no clue. I’m sure I’ll be back on the wagon by then like always though.

by WakeJake on Mar 12, 2010 1:41 AM EST reply actions  

Honestly

You have to feel like this team won’t put up a fight. We haven’t truly put up a fight since the loss to Virginia Tech. After the 4 game losing streak, we squeaked a win over Clemson. I had hoped they would have enough fire under their butts to beat Miami for a chance at revenge against VT who derailed our run at 2nd in the ACC with the comeback victory. Unfortunately, it appears that VT stole more than our chances at 2nd because this team has no heart anymore.

I don’t mind losing as much as I mind not playing with heart and pride. The reason I feel in love with Deacon Basketball was our competitive drive and spirit. Despite our ‘quality’ over the 20 or so years I’ve been a Deacon fan, we’ve always punched back and played hard. The past 2 seasons… Something’s different.

by Stormfury on Mar 12, 2010 8:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know if it is time to fire him quite yet, but I completely understand what you’re saying. I felt that when they hired Rusty LaRue, he was put in the perfect position to be promoted to head coach, but that’s just me.

If I had to do it, I would put LaRue as head coach, and keep Gaudio as a recruiter/assistant/co-head coach, but that would be sort of awkward….

by willisb_rad on Mar 12, 2010 7:32 AM EST reply actions  

Love the article except for 1 sentance

“Dino is a great man and is a good coach”

This should read, Dino is a great man and is an excellent recruiter. Coach is to strong. Your very article describes how he is not a good coach.

I just hope we don’t fall into the GT trap of continually renewing / saving the coaches job because of his superb recruiting. For years now GT has the “best recruit” only to continually struggle to get to the post season.

by Stormfury on Mar 12, 2010 8:09 AM EST reply actions  

Breaking the zone

Is difficult for us because we don’t have the big men that can flash high and make a play at the high post. AFA is the only guy but he often plays the wing position to drive and create. Chas is average at it but not spectactular. Weaver and Woods can’t plays there to break the zone. Combine that with our lack of outside shooting and we have a team that will struggle mightily against the zone. Fault the other coaches for not playing it against us all season.

by JoshuaR on Mar 12, 2010 9:11 AM EST reply actions  

I also do not agree. Several of the points you made on attacking a zone are valid, but only if you have the personal to execute them.

This team would be undefeated in the following:
1. 40 yard dash
2. High jump
3. Broad jump

They would finish last in the following:
1. Dribbling contest
2. Passing contest
3. HORSE (shooting contest)

There are and have always been certain skills needed to play the great game of basketball, and Wake is the weakest team in the conference when measuring and evaluating those skills. It is what it is.

Dino and staff recognize the teams weaknesses, thereby turning to defense and rebounding in an effort to win. When an opponent elects to run with us or play an aggressive man to man (as opposed to a sagging man to man) then our chances for success increase considerably. The truth is we have one player currently who can both dribble and pass and two who can on occasion hit the jump shot. When the media and fans talk of Wake’s talent, they have to be referring to shear athletic ability, definitely not basketball skills.

Our late season losses to me are to be expected. As the tournament time approaches, teams on the whole tend to slow the game down and pull their defenses back to the paint. When this happens, we are put at a serious disadvantage and typically will not be successful.

While it could be argued that everyone wants the athletes, if you want to win at a high level you need some basketball players. ****In a contest of athleticism Wake would dominate Duke…in a contest of basketball, Duke will dominate Wake.

by olddeac on Mar 12, 2010 9:13 AM EST reply actions  

What about...

Failing to call Timeout to stop momentum until we’re down 10-12?

Failing to motivate the players to learn free throw shooting. The easiest way to beat this team is to play a zone or foul them. It’s a effectively a turnover every time we go to the line.

Failing to bench players who are struggling or doing things that are not a part of their game? Aminu for 3… over and over and over…

Failing to implement alternatives to the stand around offense. While we may not be good at dribbling, passing or shooting (all important). Standing around on offense doesn’t confuse to many defenses, if any…

I’m sorry, but these all fall on the coaching staff.

by Stormfury on Mar 12, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Dino a lot as a person, but this is becoming a trend. It’s clear he can coach defense and that he doesn’t have the personnel to execute. But as Bart said, there are other ways to break the zone.

I was listening to an interview with Kent State’s coach last night (RPI 42, 22-8, 13-3 in the MAC, SOS- 90,6-5 vs. RPI Top 100) and he flat out said, “We need to make a few jumpshots, but I know we’re not a good shooting team, so we have to do other things to beat the zone. And we’ve done a good job of that this year.”

And that’s the case. There have been plenty of teams that can attack the zone effectively, but it’s a matter of patience, discipline and execution, none of which have shown themselves from this Wake team in the last few seasons.

Olddeac is on the right track—we have athletes, not shooters, and that has been the case since Skip’s tenure. It is important to note that this class (Ari and C.J.) is Dino’s first true class and that the new 5 coming in are supposed to be better shooters, so would they help? Possibly. But, again, this is an unknown like anything else.

What we do know is that the team has folded down the stretch three straight years, Dino’s first three years. Teams exploit Wake’s weaknesses and the Deacs look unprepared and lost and we get left with player quotes like “I don’t know what happened” “They just got hot” “They got the 50-50 balls” “I’m just shocked. I can’t believe it.”

Am I advocating a change? I honestly don’t know. I’m not Ron Wellman and it would be a difficult decision. Dino has been very faithful to the program, his kids are Wake Forest kids, but if a decision is going to be made, you either make it now or you give Dino the next two years.

Whether Wellman wants to be patient and risk another two years of failure in March or the chance at Dino’s system falling into place, well that’s his call.

Bah da da da da da da da, Go Deacs.

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by Martin Rickman on Mar 12, 2010 10:00 AM EST reply actions  

Yesterday’s game was certainly disappointing (slight understatement) but articles like this probably shouldn’t be written (and decisions about coaching changes) in the heat of the moment. Trust me, I have issues with the coaching as well. Not so much the late season collapses (which bother me to no end) but also the style of play. I don’t want to see Wake go back to the days of Oden and the slow down defense (49-45) games. Those are boring to watch. I am letting this season go in that regard because of the personnel that were in place. But if this continues to be a defense first and foremost team, then I will join the chorus for his removal.

However, I am strongly of the opinion that every coach deserves 5 years. This is the only way to get his players in and his system in place.

by DingoDeac on Mar 12, 2010 10:46 AM EST reply actions  

Lets be real

Look at the past two teams we have had. Last year we had two players to go top 20 in the NBA draft. This year Aminu will probably be a lottery pick. Yet, we lose to Cleveland State and Miami.

I know Dino is a good guy, but for Wake’s program’s sake, please FIRE this guy. Wellman needs to do something to keep the repuation of Wake’s basketball program, because right now we are known as the biggest chokers in the postseason out of any team.

Even looking at the history of Wake, we have had great and talented players (see Duncan, CP3, Mugsy, J-Howard, Teague, etc), yet the furthest Wake has gone in the tourney is Elite 8? The reason that is boils down to COACHING. Dino just portrays this, and it is inexcusable.

I feel that Wake would be a great school for any coach. We are in the ACC and we always have good teams, plus job security is never really a problem at Wake (see Grobe). I feel that we need a coach who is use to winning in March (maybe someone like a Tubby Smith). I’m not going to start naming other coaches, but I do know Dino Gaudio is probably the worst coach I have seen in a very long time…

You can quote that!!!!

by Da Kid Long on Mar 12, 2010 11:10 AM EST reply actions  

Job security is a problem

If you want to fire Dino after 3 seasons (one of which he was thrust into with no preperation). You want to see a bad coach..look accross the ACC at Hewitt.

by JoshuaR on Mar 12, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Dino Gaudio must go

I am a true Wake Forest fan, I have been pulling for the deacs since I was 5 years old (30 years ago) I rarely miss a home game despite living 3 1/2 hours from Winston and I didn’t miss a game this entire season. I have tried to support Dino but I am done. Everything Skip Prosser put in place he is destroying. I read his comments about the players not playing with emotion and drive, which is garbage. What happened on Thursday was a coaching disaster. He put in shooters that would not shoot. People were screaming from the stands to shoot the ball. No one on offence were running cuts, or even trying to get open. It appears that everyone is scared to death to take shots and play (except for Ishmael). I will tell you what happens in March, we start playing in November and our opponents watch our tapes and learn how to play us and we have no ability to make corrections. We have always been a transition team but now we want to play half court offence, we don’t want to trap at half court when we are down 20 points, no timeouts to stop runs Why,why,why? We look like we are playing pick up ball at the park. Just like last year, we can’t even win against a Cleveland State with two NBA first round draft picks. I am sick of spending thousands of dollars a year in support of Wake to watch Dino Gaudio mismanage some of the best players in the NCAA. Dino go back to accounting or maybe go find a D3 high school to coach. You are flat out overmatched in the ACC.

by Deaconfan on Mar 12, 2010 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

While I too am frusterated

A large chunk of the blame goes to personnel. Gino became head coach when Prosser passed away and really was learning about his team. The defense-orientation he installed has been a big success with a few failures (If the other team can hit threes it’s incredibly ineffective). I think he focused on getting his team working together the first year and realized last year that the team couldn’t shoot hence recruiting ari and harris. The problem is that they are both freshman and probably not ready to be leaned on against so much. This team was probably one or two pieces away from being a legitimate power team. Having any ability to hit the outside shot would have collapsed zones. With only two freshmen to fill those needs the other teams knew to clamp down on them.
Essentially Gino needs to get some sort of offense going. He has succeeded in one part of the game, but he needs major help on offense and developing bigs. I’m willing to give him one more year, but after that he’s done. He might just need better assistant coaches but I don’t understand why that hasn’t been corrected by now.
Oh and if they make the tournament they’re one and done sad to say.

by OsandRoyals on Mar 13, 2010 5:32 PM EST reply actions  

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